Angel Gomes: A future star for United or a sell-on player?

Chalkie

Academy Regular
#1
On 27 August 2016, Angel Gomes became the youngest player to score a hat-trick for Manchester United at academy level since 2001 and he did it after coming on as a substitute.

Echoes of Ole versus Nottingham Forest on 6 February 1999 when he came on as a sub with 18 minutes to go and scored four goals in our 8-1 win at the City Ground. Aged 15 years, 11 months and 29 days old at the time, Gomes also became the third youngest player to achieve the feat in the club's history. In season 2016-2017, Gomes became the youngest ever recipient of the Jimmy Murphy Player of the Year Award after scoring 12 times in 19 starts for our Under-18’s side. He followed some young players who also won the club’s Young Player of the Year Award who went on to become a United icon and a United Legend - Norman Whiteside was the inaugural winner in 1983, Mark Hughes 1984 & 1985, Ryan Giggs 1991 & 1992, Paul Scholes 1993, Phil Neville 1994, Wes Brown 1998 & 1999 whilst Mason Greenwood was the recipient in season 2018-19.

On 21 May 2017, Jose Mourinho gave Gomes his first senior start in a United shirt when he sent him on as an 88th minute substitute for Wayne Rooney in a 2-0 victory over Crystal Palace at Old Trafford in the final Premier League game of the season (scorers: Josh Harrop & Paul Pogba).

Aged just 16 years and 263 days old, he became the youngest player to play for Manchester United since the legendary Busby Babe, Duncan
Edwards, who was 16 years and 185 days old when Matt Busby handed the jewel in his crown his senior debut versus Cardiff City on 4 April 1953. United lost 4-1 that day at Old Trafford in an English First Division game (scorer: Roger Byrne). Edwards, who sadly lost his life on 21 February 1958, just 15 days after the Munich Air Disaster, also became the youngest ever player to play in the top flight of English football.

Gomes played in our disappointing 0-0 draw away to AZ Alkmaar last Thursday night and I say disappointing because we never even had a shot on target in the entire 90 minutes! The game resulted in United's worst away run since 1989. Post the result United have failed to win any of their last 10 away matches (we last went on a longer winless run on the road between February 1989 and September 1989, 11 games).

It was also the first time failed to have a shot on target in a Europa League game for the first time in 25 matches. In my opinion, our “want away” player, David de Gea, kept his first clean sheet on the road for us since February 2019 versus Fulham, ending a run of conceding in 10 consecutive away matches. And, a la Fergie youth style, United debutant, Brandon Williams, had 89 touches in the game in Holland, five more than any of his teammates. Ole, in his homage to Sir Matt Busby, the “Father of Manchester United,” made Williams the fourth teenager to be handed a first start for Manchester United since Solskjaer took over in December 2018 (along with Tahith Chong, Mason Greenwood and Angel Gomes).

On 21 May 2017, Jose Mourinho gave Gomes his first senior start in a United shirt when he sent him on as an 88th minute substitute for Wayne Rooney in a 2-0 victory over Crystal Palace at Old Trafford in the final Premier League game of the season (scorers: Josh Harrop & Paul Pogba). Aged just 16 years and 263 days old, he became the youngest player to play for Manchester United since the legendary Busby Babe, Duncan Edwards, who was 16 years and 185 days old when Matt Busby handed the jewel in his crown his senior debut versus Cardiff City on 4 April 1953. United lost 4-1 that day at Old Trafford in an English First Division game (scorer: Roger Byrne). Edwards, who sadly lost his life on 21 February 1958, just 15 days after the Munich Air Disaster, also became the youngest ever player to play in the top flight of English football.

Gomes played in our disappointing 0-0 draw away to AZ Alkmaar last Thursday night and I say disappointing because we never even had a shot on target in the entire 90 minutes! The game resulted in United's worst away run since 1989. Post the result United have failed to win any of their last 10 away matches (we last went on a longer winless run on the road between February 1989 and September 1989, 11 games). It was also the first time failed to have a shot on target in a Europa League game for the first time in 25 matches.

In my opinion, our “want away” player, David de Gea, kept his first clean sheet on the road for us since February 2019 versus Fulham, ending a run of conceding in 10 consecutive away matches. And, a la Fergie youth style, United debutant, Brandon Williams, had 89 touches in the game in Holland, five more than any of his teammates. Ole, in his homage to Sir Matt Busby, the “Father of Manchester United,” made Williams the fourth teenager to be handed a first start for Manchester United since Solskjaer took over in December 2018 (along with Tahith Chong, Mason Greenwood and Angel Gomes).


So, do you think Gomes will establish himself as a regular first team player, or in the words of a song by The Stranglers, “Should I Stay? Or Should I Go?,” will he decide its time to move on to guarantee first team football elsewhere or do you think he will eventually be sold on?

My own view is that Gomes will follow in the football boots of other recipients of the Jimmy Murphy Player of the Year Award and move on.
Giuesipi Rossi 2005
Darron Gibson 2006
Danny Welbeck 2008
Frederico Macheda 2009

What do you think?

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Abhishek

Academy Newbie
#2
On 27 August 2016, Angel Gomes became the youngest player to score a hat-trick for Manchester United at academy level since 2001 and he did it after coming on as a substitute.

Echoes of Ole versus Nottingham Forest on 6 February 1999 when he came on as a sub with 18 minutes to go and scored four goals in our 8-1 win at the City Ground. Aged 15 years, 11 months and 29 days old at the time, Gomes also became the third youngest player to achieve the feat in the club's history. In season 2016-2017, Gomes became the youngest ever recipient of the Jimmy Murphy Player of the Year Award after scoring 12 times in 19 starts for our Under-18’s side. He followed some young players who also won the club’s Young Player of the Year Award who went on to become a United icon and a United Legend - Norman Whiteside was the inaugural winner in 1983, Mark Hughes 1984 & 1985, Ryan Giggs 1991 & 1992, Paul Scholes 1993, Phil Neville 1994, Wes Brown 1998 & 1999 whilst Mason Greenwood was the recipient in season 2018-19.

On 21 May 2017, Jose Mourinho gave Gomes his first senior start in a United shirt when he sent him on as an 88th minute substitute for Wayne Rooney in a 2-0 victory over Crystal Palace at Old Trafford in the final Premier League game of the season (scorers: Josh Harrop & Paul Pogba).

Aged just 16 years and 263 days old, he became the youngest player to play for Manchester United since the legendary Busby Babe, Duncan
Edwards, who was 16 years and 185 days old when Matt Busby handed the jewel in his crown his senior debut versus Cardiff City on 4 April 1953. United lost 4-1 that day at Old Trafford in an English First Division game (scorer: Roger Byrne). Edwards, who sadly lost his life on 21 February 1958, just 15 days after the Munich Air Disaster, also became the youngest ever player to play in the top flight of English football.

Gomes played in our disappointing 0-0 draw away to AZ Alkmaar last Thursday night and I say disappointing because we never even had a shot on target in the entire 90 minutes! The game resulted in United's worst away run since 1989. Post the result United have failed to win any of their last 10 away matches (we last went on a longer winless run on the road between February 1989 and September 1989, 11 games).

It was also the first time failed to have a shot on target in a Europa League game for the first time in 25 matches. In my opinion, our “want away” player, David de Gea, kept his first clean sheet on the road for us since February 2019 versus Fulham, ending a run of conceding in 10 consecutive away matches. And, a la Fergie youth style, United debutant, Brandon Williams, had 89 touches in the game in Holland, five more than any of his teammates. Ole, in his homage to Sir Matt Busby, the “Father of Manchester United,” made Williams the fourth teenager to be handed a first start for Manchester United since Solskjaer took over in December 2018 (along with Tahith Chong, Mason Greenwood and Angel Gomes).

On 21 May 2017, Jose Mourinho gave Gomes his first senior start in a United shirt when he sent him on as an 88th minute substitute for Wayne Rooney in a 2-0 victory over Crystal Palace at Old Trafford in the final Premier League game of the season (scorers: Josh Harrop & Paul Pogba). Aged just 16 years and 263 days old, he became the youngest player to play for Manchester United since the legendary Busby Babe, Duncan Edwards, who was 16 years and 185 days old when Matt Busby handed the jewel in his crown his senior debut versus Cardiff City on 4 April 1953. United lost 4-1 that day at Old Trafford in an English First Division game (scorer: Roger Byrne). Edwards, who sadly lost his life on 21 February 1958, just 15 days after the Munich Air Disaster, also became the youngest ever player to play in the top flight of English football.

Gomes played in our disappointing 0-0 draw away to AZ Alkmaar last Thursday night and I say disappointing because we never even had a shot on target in the entire 90 minutes! The game resulted in United's worst away run since 1989. Post the result United have failed to win any of their last 10 away matches (we last went on a longer winless run on the road between February 1989 and September 1989, 11 games). It was also the first time failed to have a shot on target in a Europa League game for the first time in 25 matches.

In my opinion, our “want away” player, David de Gea, kept his first clean sheet on the road for us since February 2019 versus Fulham, ending a run of conceding in 10 consecutive away matches. And, a la Fergie youth style, United debutant, Brandon Williams, had 89 touches in the game in Holland, five more than any of his teammates. Ole, in his homage to Sir Matt Busby, the “Father of Manchester United,” made Williams the fourth teenager to be handed a first start for Manchester United since Solskjaer took over in December 2018 (along with Tahith Chong, Mason Greenwood and Angel Gomes).


So, do you think Gomes will establish himself as a regular first team player, or in the words of a song by The Stranglers, “Should I Stay? Or Should I Go?,” will he decide its time to move on to guarantee first team football elsewhere or do you think he will eventually be sold on?

My own view is that Gomes will follow in the football boots of other recipients of the Jimmy Murphy Player of the Year Award and move on.
Giuesipi Rossi 2005
Darron Gibson 2006
Danny Welbeck 2008
Frederico Macheda 2009

What do you think?

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Chalkie
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He does have the ability to play for Man Utd as a no. 10 especially in this team. But we will never know because Ole never plays him as a no. 10. He plays RW/LW always out of position.
 

Tiborg

Academy Newbie
#3
I am sure he is good enough,but needs a proper game time in his position.He is just another mistery by Ole.Why Ole prefers Lingard over Gomes is beyond me...
 

Potaaato

Academy Newbie
#4
i think he is a younger version of juan mata, i think he have lots of potential and able to give more attacking option to the club.
 

Stretford

Academy Newbie
#5
He is 100% better than Mata and idiot Lingard but truth is none of those 3 should be in team. I guess play him before Mata and Lingard.. but they are all bang average :/
 

Sam

Manager
Staff member
#6
I think Gomes has all the potential to become a first team regular if I'm honest but the big issue with him is that his introduction to the team isn't natural - it's being forced now. Kids should be brought in when the feeling is right, when the club is stable, when they can grow off the back of it but right now these kids are all being thrown in the deep end with massive pressures and it's 10x harder for them to succeed in those conditions.
 

Rebelred

Academy Star
#7
I think Gomes has all the potential to become a first team regular if I'm honest but the big issue with him is that his introduction to the team isn't natural - it's being forced now. Kids should be brought in when the feeling is right, when the club is stable, when they can grow off the back of it but right now these kids are all being thrown in the deep end with massive pressures and it's 10x harder for them to succeed in those conditions.
Would echo everything just said, this should be a season when they get game time in Europa league and league cup with the odd few minutes in prem games to build up confidence. Currently they are being used as the great white hope, expecting them to change games when they are playing, knocking there confidence which could set them back years. Too much is expected of our young players due to the inadaqucies of our senior players. The pressure on Rashford, is ridiculous and he is only 21.
 

Sam

Manager
Staff member
#8
Would echo everything just said, this should be a season when they get game time in Europa league and league cup with the odd few minutes in prem games to build up confidence. Currently they are being used as the great white hope, expecting them to change games when they are playing, knocking there confidence which could set them back years. Too much is expected of our young players due to the inadaqucies of our senior players. The pressure on Rashford, is ridiculous and he is only 21.
It’s a sad state of affairs isn’t it? And it’s certainly a big reason why we haven’t had more breakthrough youngsters in recent years.
 

Cal

Reserves Captain
#9
He needs a loan spell at Aston villa lol.

Look at how great Axel and Tammy turned out from their loans there last year.

The great thing about Aston Villa is that they can teach attacking football to Gomes, and he could have a good chance at being that playmaker
 
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