#glazersout

#21
Why is this report a surprise to anyone? Why would the Glazers/Woodward appoint an autonomous DoF? A turkey won't vote for Christmas. They just see a player's value as numbers on a spreadsheet. They don't believe performance on the pitch is related to the PLC's value. A DoF with autonomy would in their eyes be a loose cannon. But they are going to learn pretty soon that results do matter to the stock price. Chevrolet pulling out is fantastic news, it will teach them a lesson. I really think if we can fire up the #glazersout movement to put pressure on other sponsors this would be the perfect time, and we could do some serious damage. The trouble is, how to get that message out and get everyone singing from the same hymn sheet.
 

Sam

Manager
Staff member
#22
Why is this report a surprise to anyone? Why would the Glazers/Woodward appoint an autonomous DoF? A turkey won't vote for Christmas. They just see a player's value as numbers on a spreadsheet. They don't believe performance on the pitch is related to the PLC's value. A DoF with autonomy would in their eyes be a loose cannon. But they are going to learn pretty soon that results do matter to the stock price. Chevrolet pulling out is fantastic news, it will teach them a lesson. I really think if we can fire up the #glazersout movement to put pressure on other sponsors this would be the perfect time, and we could do some serious damage. The trouble is, how to get that message out and get everyone singing from the same hymn sheet.
Sorry but all I could imagine reading this was a panel of turkeys voting against Christmas.
 
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Cal

Reserves Regular
#26
Renaming OT would be tragic. Appointing a DoF from within would still be an improvement over no DoF, but hire someone with a backbone first of all, and with a vision to see the club through these next few seasons back to the top.
 
#29
I wouldnt read too much into it Bert. Mitten has always been a bitch of the club.
I know. I was being facetious. Mitten will spin the party line in one way or another. I don't really blame him because, as David Meek, a far better journalist than Mitten once found out, if the club locks you out, then source material dries up. Mitten has shown contempt for United fans who don't or can't attend games only putting stock in what "match-going" fans say. He might want to recall that there was a time not too long ago when Old Trafford was full of loyal match-going fans and that tourists and corporate types were in the minority.
 
#30
He might well want to take a moment and wobble his head a little. Hundreds of Reds still buy the UWS fanzine who actually havent attended games for over 10 years. They made that very difficult decision all them years ago like i did. 2007. A few thousand walked away on their season tickets out of principal. A team still winning leagues, still competing at the top table. Even going on to European cup finals. It broke my heat for sure seeing the way the club was going and the way it was treating its fans.

Good lads from all over Britain, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and even further afield. And with my local accent and the lads who were also with me, the tricky days of when we played the scousers or Everton could be particularly difficult. They were amazed that we were all United fans, yet Liverpool and Everton were far better in them days. Its seems like only yesterday when we played against Liverpool in the late 70's and a gang of us were cornered in the Stret Paddock just minutes from kick off. Bench Hill massive from Wythenshaw were about to cut short our young lives until Baz from Moston stepped in and saved the day. They obviously thought we were Dirties who had gate crashed the home end. The police had already made their mind up minutes earlier that they were turning a blind eye.

Being a United fan from this part of the world has never been easy. In fact i dont think there is anywhere more difficult.
Not that Mitten would ever give a fuck though.
 

Sam

Manager
Staff member
#31
Think Andy gets far more stick than he deserves if I'm honest. Yes he's well connected to the club but his independent fanzine has been going for 30 years, he doesn't need the club for that to happen.
 
#32
Think Andy gets far more stick than he deserves if I'm honest. Yes he's well connected to the club but his independent fanzine has been going for 30 years, he doesn't need the club for that to happen.
Indeed. But with all due respect Sam, though UWS is a decent fanzine its tame at the same time and has skirted around a lot of serious issues a lot of the fans have had. All in the name of keeping his club connections on side. Red Issue was always the best fanzine for many of us.
Ive always enjoyed Andy's scribes it has to be said. But its proved to be a very sturdy fence he sits on. And to a degree i get that.
 
#33
Think Andy gets far more stick than he deserves if I'm honest. Yes he's well connected to the club but his independent fanzine has been going for 30 years, he doesn't need the club for that to happen.
The late, lamented Red Issue was, for me anyway, far more cutting edge and on point than anything UWS has done. UWS is sort of like the old Fotball Monthly; staid, not too controversial, and with enough content to keep fans informed. Mitten has shied away from challenging the United hierarchy and he won't: fans living in other parts of the country and other parts of the world are easier targets. I get that he doesn't have any viable answers to the Glazer conundrum but to have a snide pop at people who are trying to do something is not on. Sure, there will be some who jump on the #Glazersout bandwagon just for aggregation (I had to look up what that means in social media terminology) but there are some serious reds out there who are at least doing something. For Mitten to sneer at them is just wrong and he deserves all the flak he gets.
 
#34
He might well want to take a moment and wobble his head a little. Hundreds of Reds still buy the UWS fanzine who actually havent attended games for over 10 years. They made that very difficult decision all them years ago like i did. 2007. A few thousand walked away on their season tickets out of principal. A team still winning leagues, still competing at the top table. Even going on to European cup finals. It broke my heat for sure seeing the way the club was going and the way it was treating its fans.

Good lads from all over Britain, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and even further afield. And with my local accent and the lads who were also with me, the tricky days of when we played the scousers or Everton could be particularly difficult. They were amazed that we were all United fans, yet Liverpool and Everton were far better in them days. Its seems like only yesterday when we played against Liverpool in the late 70's and a gang of us were cornered in the Stret Paddock just minutes from kick off. Bench Hill massive from Wythenshaw were about to cut short our young lives until Baz from Moston stepped in and saved the day. They obviously thought we were Dirties who had gate crashed the home end. The police had already made their mind up minutes earlier that they were turning a blind eye.

Being a United fan from this part of the world has never been easy. In fact i dont think there is anywhere more difficult.
Not that Mitten would ever give a fuck though.
I took the train to London in 1974 to go to college and thereafter went to some games with the Cockney Reds. Phil, who used to be on the other forum, did the same thing as I recall. I remember the game with Millwall played on a weeknight when the special from Manchester broke down and we were severely underrepresented in the Den. Cockney Reds didn't give a toss though. They got in the North Bank at Highbury and caused a ruck but instead of being chucked out, the coppers marched them all round to the Clock End, which you could do in those days. We used to get loads of Irish lads from both north and south at home games as well as Swedes and Norwegians who came over to get pissed on cheap beer (for them) and watch the match. Used to be that as each group arrived at the ground, they'd announce themselves such as 'Cockney reds we are here, whoa, whoa...' Nowadays you get a canned version of that shitty ditty 'United Roads.'

Remember this? The first bit of footage looks like Wembley in 1977 though, not Old Trafford.

 
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