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gio_m123

Reserves Newbie
#28
Not a fan of the S*n but have heard about the revenue situation.
How embarrassing would it be if the City, the club we’ve been calling the oil club, overtake us on revenue 😓 depressing
 
#31
As much as Poch is an attractive proposition, I don't think it will make a difference. United the ownership changes and we replace a banker with a DoF, United will continue to flounder. Fergie was the brains of the whole operation for years. He delegated but he retained absolute control over footballing matters. After he retired, the Glazers would not let another manager have so much power, but they made the mistake of thinking that the team would carry on winning trophies no matter who was managing. They had this weird idea that it was self-perpetuating.

Fergie saw the writing on the wall with City. After defending the Glazers for years, he knew they would not go toe-to-toe with them on a financial basis. Woodward wanted Gill's job and I wonder if Fergie decided he didn't want a power struggle with him. It's all speculation of course. Poch won't be able to make demands. He will be shown the business model and told to get on with it. I hope, for his sake, he doesn't come because United will ruin him. Hell, if Mourinho and Van Gaal, both European Champions, came off second-best to Woodward, what chance has Poch got?
 

gio_m123

Reserves Newbie
#32
As much as Poch is an attractive proposition, I don't think it will make a difference. United the ownership changes and we replace a banker with a DoF, United will continue to flounder. Fergie was the brains of the whole operation for years. He delegated but he retained absolute control over footballing matters. After he retired, the Glazers would not let another manager have so much power, but they made the mistake of thinking that the team would carry on winning trophies no matter who was managing. They had this weird idea that it was self-perpetuating.

Fergie saw the writing on the wall with City. After defending the Glazers for years, he knew they would not go toe-to-toe with them on a financial basis. Woodward wanted Gill's job and I wonder if Fergie decided he didn't want a power struggle with him. It's all speculation of course. Poch won't be able to make demands. He will be shown the business model and told to get on with it. I hope, for his sake, he doesn't come because United will ruin him. Hell, if Mourinho and Van Gaal, both European Champions, came off second-best to Woodward, what chance has Poch got?
I agree 100% Albert, that’s why I’m still sticking with Ole and not judging him until he gets in a proper quality number 10 to help implement his plan.
Besides, Poch will only come IF he gets guaranteed transfer money and a DOF. So if Woodward doesn’t put those things in writing, he wouldn’t come anyway I don’t think. His reputation as a manager can stay intact for now!
 
#33
As much as Poch is an attractive proposition, I don't think it will make a difference. United the ownership changes and we replace a banker with a DoF, United will continue to flounder. Fergie was the brains of the whole operation for years. He delegated but he retained absolute control over footballing matters. After he retired, the Glazers would not let another manager have so much power, but they made the mistake of thinking that the team would carry on winning trophies no matter who was managing. They had this weird idea that it was self-perpetuating.

Fergie saw the writing on the wall with City. After defending the Glazers for years, he knew they would not go toe-to-toe with them on a financial basis. Woodward wanted Gill's job and I wonder if Fergie decided he didn't want a power struggle with him. It's all speculation of course. Poch won't be able to make demands. He will be shown the business model and told to get on with it. I hope, for his sake, he doesn't come because United will ruin him. Hell, if Mourinho and Van Gaal, both European Champions, came off second-best to Woodward, what chance has Poch got?
There's no doubt about it Bert. Not that there ever was. But Ed Deadwood is clearly the common denomination when it comes to the clubs rapid decline. His power trip kicked in early doors after Fergie and Gill jumped ship. Flying Juan Matter up by helicopter with a fully briefed press at hand was all a bit corny. Falcao and Di Maria soon followed. Di Maria being probably the first sign that trouble was just around the corner.

PSG and his agent had been hard at work to try and find a way around the financial fair play rules imposed on them. He'd been told by Madrid that he was no longer wanted. He was desperate to join Paris and had previously bought a home there. But alas there were no loop holes to exploit. Ed pounced on the chance to sign him, a "Galacticos", he'd shift some shirts. But it was no secret he had absolutely no desire to play in England.

Falcao another mistake. Just off the back of 12 months out with injury. It didnt stop Ed sanctioning a £250,000 a week deal. He couldnt refuse a pay check like that. It was a disastrous bit of business. Then, just as Di Maria's first year was ending, then so was the FFP ruling against PSG.
And off he went. Making millions on the way.

Schweinstieger brought in. Hailed by the club as a "world cup winner". A marquee signing who also commanded a huge pay packet. Yet when Pep was asked about why he had released him from Munich, his reply was blunt........."Bastian has played 17 games in 15 months, his knee injury wont go away". Another Ed shirt seller. An absolute cluster fuck.

The most embarrassing was the Sanchez deal. Him moving to City had been agreed in principle months earlier. But when the time came Pep was having none of Sanchez' wage demands. Clearly feeling it would cause trouble in the squad with such a deal. He promptly aborted any further interest. In swoops super Ed. With yet again absolutely no forethought on how he could fit in. Would he fit in?
Not a fuck given. It was great for United's PR machine. The shares were holding nicely. Meanwhile the team were in free fall.
And have been ever since. But Woody called it when he told the NYSE....."Manchester United dont have to be successful on the pitch to be a successful brand off the pitch". And there lies the problem. Does keeping the match going fans happy matter? Not really. Do the performances on the pitch really matter? Not particularly. Does the share price matter? You bet your fuckin arse!!

And this is why Woodbrain has been entrusted with looking after the ship on behalf of the Gimps in Florida. Because the bottom line is this.
When United fans all over the world are looking at the results pages in the newspaper to see how many points we have, the owners go to the share page to see how many points the shares have made or lost. And the stats dont lie. Ed Deadwood has made them extremely wealthy people.

To the common fan this guy is a slime ball. To the owners he has proved to be a license to print money.
Yet the debt on the club is back over the £510 million mark. The stadium is looking tired and jaded. But not a fuck given. The owners will still be creaming off almost £200 million a year straight into their tax free bank accounts in the Cayman Islands.

I walked away in 2007 like thousands of others did. Enough was enough then. Unless people vote with their pocket nothing will ever change.
But i/we did our bit.
 
#34
Well said Bastard! (It sounds funny for me to say that haha)

I have to say though, even though Woodward is to blame for a lot, if not all of these deals, all he's done is sign off on them. He should be sharing most of the criticism with Matt Judge, United's chief negotiator. I'm sure you guys know who he is already and where he sits in the United hierarchy, I would blame him just as much as Woodward for our incompetence in the transfer market but for some reason his name never gets mentioned.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ws/manchester-united-matt-judge-wiki-16442046
 
#35
I've also made a pledge to not get any merchandise until the Glazers leave, haven't bought a kit in a few years although I've been tempted with some of the nice designs. I know it doesn't do anything really but I can't bear the thought of putting my money in the pockets of the owners. I may not have another kit for a long time :(
 

Cal

Reserves Regular
#36
I've also made a pledge to not get any merchandise until the Glazers leave, haven't bought a kit in a few years although I've been tempted with some of the nice designs. I know it doesn't do anything really but I can't bear the thought of putting my money in the pockets of the owners. I may not have another kit for a long time :(
I've only bought kits from ebay. Cheaper and you can get some great kits if you're lucky
 
#37
I've only bought kits from ebay. Cheaper and you can get some great kits if you're lucky
I buy the son and daughter the kits off Alibaba. Shirt, shorts and socks. They even put the players name on for free. £14.00 each the lot last season. And none of that goes to the Gimps because theyre all fakes. But excellent ones. Take about 3 weeks to arrive.
https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.0.0.3de87662Icq5ij

The shirts come with full club emblem and all normal logo's. They just cant illustrate them for obvious reasons. Extremely good quality.
And fuck the Glazers.;)
 
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#38
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I buy the son and daughter the kits off Alibaba. Shirt, shorts and socks. They even put the players name on for free. £14.00 each the lot last season. And none of that goes to the Gimps because theyre all fakes. But excellent ones. Take about 3 weeks to arrive.
https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.0.0.3de87662Icq5ij

The shirts come with full club emblem and all normal logo's. They just cant illustrate them for obvious reasons. Extremely good quality.
And fuck the Glazers.;)
if they’re that good I’ll take a look!
 
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