Ole Gunnar Solskjaer: A thread

Sam

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#1
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Can't really ignore the main talking point around the club at the moment. We're 2 points off the relegation zone and there's a lot of questions to be asked about Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, so this thread is for all the conversation about Solskjaer!

Where do you stand on Solskjaer as United manager right now?
 

Betty

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#2
I stand by Ole. I like everything he's done - I like the high press. I like the fact he's doubled the training. I like the fact he's brought in good players with built-in loyalty and got rid of players who weren't committed. I like the fact Tuanzebe is being given a chance to nail the CB spot ahead of Rojo and Jones. I like the way he handles himself at press conferences and he doesn't blame everyone else for results as José used to do. I can see he wants to play swashbuckling football. I think he's been let down by the board in terms of midfield and forward signings. Is he a master tactician? We're nowhere near the stage of finding that out yet, let's just get off his back and give him a chance to bed in and strengthen the squad further.
 

Chud10

Academy Newbie
#3
What gets me is people calling for oles head yet we've been down this road before wiv Moyes Jose and van gaal yet sacking them thinking it was going to be a quick fix didn't work. Ole has a plan in place even had a plan signing James wan bisakka and Maguire something we haven't had for a while. Time is wot is needed now not drastic action. We've been spoilt by fergie and people expect us to win every game, the league's changed alot we need to all get on board wiv oles plan for the next 2 to 3 years and then we'll see where we are at. ⚫⚪🔴
 

Sam

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#6
I stand by Ole. I like everything he's done - I like the high press. I like the fact he's doubled the training. I like the fact he's brought in good players with built-in loyalty and got rid of players who weren't committed. I like the fact Tuanzebe is being given a chance to nail the CB spot ahead of Rojo and Jones. I like the way he handles himself at press conferences and he doesn't blame everyone else for results as José used to do. I can see he wants to play swashbuckling football. I think he's been let down by the board in terms of midfield and forward signings. Is he a master tactician? We're nowhere near the stage of finding that out yet, let's just get off his back and give him a chance to bed in and strengthen the squad further.
There's a lot to like about what Solskjaer has done so far I think and you're spot on that he has been let down. However, I don't think he can be exempt of criticism either, think it's a two-way street at the moment.


What gets me is people calling for oles head yet we've been down this road before wiv Moyes Jose and van gaal yet sacking them thinking it was going to be a quick fix didn't work. Ole has a plan in place even had a plan signing James wan bisakka and Maguire something we haven't had for a while. Time is wot is needed now not drastic action. We've been spoilt by fergie and people expect us to win every game, the league's changed alot we need to all get on board wiv oles plan for the next 2 to 3 years and then we'll see where we are at. ⚫⚪🔴
That's the big thing with me as well. It's all well and good calling for his sacking...but you don't quit a job without having a new one lined up and I do not trust United to plan anything. I still back Solskjaer, I back him to improve but I won't lie...he does need to improve as a manager, I think it's clear he is in over his head at the moment.
 

Betty

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#7
I'm a bit tired of this "2 points above the relegation zone" panic. Chelsea 4-0. Great, Wolves away, missed penalty - should have been 3 points. Palace (H), another missed pen, probably cost 3 points. Southampton (A) draw - not a bad result. Leicester (H) - win against a good team. Astana - win with a lot of players rested. West Ham and Rochdale - OK bad performances. Draw vs Arsenal - not a disaster. European draw away on plastic pitch with 8 first team regulars absent - also not a disaster. Newcastle game - still with a lot of injuries to top players, should have been a win, bad luck, bad pen decision, just not our day. Look, I'm not saying this is great stuff but with a bit of different luck we could easily be sitting in a top 4 position now.
 

Vaibhav10

Academy Newbie
#9
What I feel , this team is meant to play in 3-5-2 formation. We have good central defenders to play in this formation. Play Awb Harry n axel as 3 defenders, I prefer awb in this three as he is not good offensively. Play Scott in front of 3 then on right wing back lingard or dalot pogba n garner in middle n Brandon as left wing back, I am not convinced with shaw. Marcos n martial as strikers, they both ll play better together than as a single striker, n James as super sub to stretch tiring defences
 

Emin3m

Academy Newbie
#10
What gets me is people calling for oles head yet we've been down this road before wiv Moyes Jose and van gaal yet sacking them thinking it was going to be a quick fix didn't work. Ole has a plan in place even had a plan signing James wan bisakka and Maguire something we haven't had for a while. Time is wot is needed now not drastic action. We've been spoilt by fergie and people expect us to win every game, the league's changed alot we need to all get on board wiv oles plan for the next 2 to 3 years and then we'll see where we are at. ⚫⚪🔴
I hear what you saying....I like Ole as well...I like what his intentions are and how he goes about trying to get what needs to be done done. But is that person to take us back up that pedestal???...tbh...I think not. But he can put us in that place of comfort and assurance for the next person. He knows what the core of united is about and what makes us tick and he's trying to have a team with the same attributes and dedication that united players are known for.
But here's the thing that I think every one knows already how many season ago...this can't be done when the board gives no support, undermines the manager, and has no idea of the footballing aspect of the club.
My questions...
How much more us as fans can take? (saw the other day a guy committed suicide after the loss to New Castle)
Are we to boycott games and merchandise? how much of an effect might that send? to me Ed and the board don't seem to care
When and How long will it take for take for us to acquire a DoF? Wasn't that suppose to be after this last transfer window? (idk)
Do we as united fans have the patience to stick it out wit Ole even though Ed and the board is wankers and don't care about anything else other than money??
just my two cents
 

Sam

Manager
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#11
I'm a bit tired of this "2 points above the relegation zone" panic. Chelsea 4-0. Great, Wolves away, missed penalty - should have been 3 points. Palace (H), another missed pen, probably cost 3 points. Southampton (A) draw - not a bad result. Leicester (H) - win against a good team. Astana - win with a lot of players rested. West Ham and Rochdale - OK bad performances. Draw vs Arsenal - not a disaster. European draw away on plastic pitch with 8 first team regulars absent - also not a disaster. Newcastle game - still with a lot of injuries to top players, should have been a win, bad luck, bad pen decision, just not our day. Look, I'm not saying this is great stuff but with a bit of different luck we could easily be sitting in a top 4 position now.
Luck is part of football, I wouldn't use it as a measure of success or failure but the margins have been small in a lot of games I agree. However, we've been on the wrong side of the margin pretty much every time...
 
#12
There is no way that getting rid of Ole will solve anything. This is a process. Not something do be done overnight and no way with these owners who won't spend enough for a short term fix. I'm not convinced by Ole tactically but he knows what needs to be done with the squad and that fact alone should be enough to let him get on with this job.
We have a board unwilling to restructure the club. We have a board unwilling to pay up for what should be done. The only one who knows what needs to be done and has some form of influence is Ole and no way should we get rid of him just yet. If the board somehow should appoint a sporting director, and that person thinks Ole is the wrong man, then fine but neither the Glazers nor Woodward should have that power.
 

Emin3m

Academy Newbie
#13
What I feel , this team is meant to play in 3-5-2 formation. We have good central defenders to play in this formation. Play Awb Harry n axel as 3 defenders, I prefer awb in this three as he is not good offensively. Play Scott in front of 3 then on right wing back lingard or dalot pogba n garner in middle n Brandon as left wing back, I am not convinced with shaw. Marcos n martial as strikers, they both ll play better together than as a single striker, n James as super sub to stretch tiring defences
I think we have a good set of defensive players....don't think we've found the correct position or the right partnership for Pogba. Midfield is disastrous when missing certain players. no one steps up (except McSauce)...last came for eg: Fred didn't play one forward pass in the entire time he was on d pitch...NOT ONE. everything was sideways or backwards. we needed to boost the middle and we didn't...we now have to play with what we have and players not stepping to the plate. I honestly think Rashford plays better coming from the wing not as a center forward...and we still need that prolific foward. love the youths...but we need that solid person who can put away chances and make chances out from nothing.
Look at what Zlatan doing in MLS, the quality of goals is like wow.
We need someone like that up front (a scorer of great goals and a great goal scorer)
 

Jimmy12

Academy Newbie
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Can't really ignore the main talking point around the club at the moment. We're 2 points off the relegation zone and there's a lot of questions to be asked about Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, so this thread is for all the conversation about Solskjaer!

Where do you stand on Solskjaer as United manager right now?
Didn't like the appointment from the start but when he got the job we have to support him give him a chance all this talk about relegation is ridiculous, I do agree it gets harder and harder to stay positive but get our injured players back and I think we'll see a difference and on a positive note our defence is looking a lot better than previous seasons
 

Sam

Manager
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#15
Didn't like the appointment from the start but when he got the job we have to support him give him a chance all this talk about relegation is ridiculous, I do agree it gets harder and harder to stay positive but get our injured players back and I think we'll see a difference and on a positive note our defence is looking a lot better than previous seasons
You're spot on about the defence. The Liverpool game is going to be an interesting one...
 

core.united

Academy Newbie
#16
What gets me is people calling for oles head yet we've been down this road before wiv Moyes Jose and van gaal yet sacking them thinking it was going to be a quick fix didn't work. Ole has a plan in place even had a plan signing James wan bisakka and Maguire something we haven't had for a while. Time is wot is needed now not drastic action. We've been spoilt by fergie and people expect us to win every game, the league's changed alot we need to all get on board wiv oles plan for the next 2 to 3 years and then we'll see where we are at. ⚫⚪🔴
I agree with you at sticking with Ole because sacking him won't change anything ; based from the previous managers we've appointed and sacked.
However , I think many fans are unhappy with the way things have quickly changed over the past few months. Clearly , the United team which went for 14 games unbeaten when OGS was interim, was weaker than the United team present - prior to the transfers we've made during the past transfer window , & also the expected rebirth , improvement and confidence in the rest of the squad still present.
But that overly is not the case , as we look to be playing worse football now and look more of a Mourinho team from before.
The players look clueless most of the times , and seem as if they're not spending the week in training.
 

Sam

Manager
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#18
Ole's future shouldn't hang on that result, now this is going to stick in my craw but here it goes Loserpool are light years ahead of us 😔
I remember losing faith in Moyes completely after City and Liverpool spanked us in the same week. Lose miserably against a bitter rival? It's never, ever going to help any United manager let alone one who is struggling.
 

Chalkie

Academy Regular
#19
Our 1-0 defeat at Newcastle United represents our worst start to a season in 30 years. And remember, 30 years ago the Greatest Ever Manager in the history of English football, Sir Alex Ferguson, was in charge of Manchester United. Solskjaer’s record after 28 games in charge of us is worse than Jose Mourinho’s in the same period before he was sacked. So, why should Ole be treated any differently? Do you think he should step down or do you think he will be sacked before our next game, Liverpool? And, regardless of the result versus Liverpool, will Ole still be our manager by the end of the calendar year? Or, do you blame the players?
 
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systemace

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#20
The thing is we’ve been playing poorly since PSG. This is down to the coaching team which unfortunately Ole is responsible for. Injuries to key players are not helping but when you see how Lampard has managed to make Chelsea play nice football even with a transfer ban, I think the injury excuse isn’t really all that. We should still be able to beat Rochdale or Astana at home comfortably, but Ole’s tactics are just so bad and coupled with our poor players, it is no wonder we are getting the results we have.
 
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