Ole Gunnar Solskjaer: A thread

K_se7en43

Academy Newbie
#42
Should have never been appointed. Right thing to do was to let him first finish the season as caretaker and then find a proper solid experienced coach that fits the size of this club. If Ole goes right now United could still fight for top 4 and UEFA league. Waiting for the end of the season would only mean another season lost and a step closer to being Liverpool...
In hindsight yea he should not of been appointed in such a way. But he is the manager and it's not his fault that he is . I put all blame on Ed , he chose Ole and he still didn't back him 100% . As long as Ed is the DOF no manager will be successful.
 

Betty

Assistant Manager
Staff member
#43
In hindsight yea he should not of been appointed in such a way. But he is the manager and it's not his fault that he is . I put all blame on Ed , he chose Ole and he still didn't back him 100% . As long as Ed is the DOF no manager will be successful.
Totally agree with this
 

Sam

Manager
Staff member
#44
In hindsight yea he should not of been appointed in such a way. But he is the manager and it's not his fault that he is . I put all blame on Ed , he chose Ole and he still didn't back him 100% . As long as Ed is the DOF no manager will be successful.
Preach.
 
#45
In hindsight yea he should not of been appointed in such a way. But he is the manager and it's not his fault that he is . I put all blame on Ed , he chose Ole and he still didn't back him 100% . As long as Ed is the DOF no manager will be successful.
Ole's appointment, and that of Phelan, has Fergie's fingerprints all over it. But you're right. Woodward was the one to give him the job and Woodward's the one making him do it with one hand tied behind his back.
 
#46
One thing I absolutely feel - United should never have appointed him at the time we did, that was foolish not to wait until the end of the season so we could get a much better view of him as manager.
While I agree with this, I had never witnessed that amount of pressure majority of our fans, ex-players and current players put on the board to give him the job. You could say that it was weak management but "we" cried for it and I guess everyone is spot on with hindsight.
I think board did not do their due diligence in searching for a manager and if they did, did treat their choice with skill and perseverance. I said it a few years ago, the acquisition of a manager should be treated like a player signing. Gone are the days of backing out because of a £5m compensation. I said before Jose came in, offer Southampton £30m for Porch and I was called crazy.
I wouldn't trust this board to fight for the right manager. I mean, Ed used an analogy of Disneyland to try to entice Klopp!
 
#47
While I agree with this, I had never witnessed that amount of pressure majority of our fans, ex-players and current players put on the board to give him the job. You could say that it was weak management but "we" cried for it and I guess everyone is spot on with hindsight.
I think board did not do their due diligence in searching for a manager and if they did, did treat their choice with skill and perseverance. I said it a few years ago, the acquisition of a manager should be treated like a player signing. Gone are the days of backing out because of a £5m compensation. I said before Jose came in, offer Southampton £30m for Porch and I was called crazy.
I wouldn't trust this board to fight for the right manager. I mean, Ed used an analogy of Disneyland to try to entice Klopp!
Perhaps Disneyland is apt. It's the one place where you live all your wildest dreams but in reality, you can only do what mummy and daddy let you do.
 

K_se7en43

Academy Newbie
#52
Solskjaer's position is secure at the moment, that's what the club is saying, and no result against Liverpool will change that.
Ole position is safe at the moment. That's it right there " at the moment " a moment can be one day to a month , no garanties. Man Ed is trigger happy 🤣. Ole is quoting and saying the structure is right. doesn't he know its Ed Woodward and this man don't like to look bad . Continue to loose and Ole will be out .
 

Sam

Manager
Staff member
#53
Ole position is safe at the moment. That's it right there " at the moment " a moment can be one day to a month , no garanties. Man Ed is trigger happy 🤣. Ole is quoting and saying the structure is right. doesn't he know its Ed Woodward and this man don't like to look bad . Continue to loose and Ole will be out .
There won't be any triggers pulled after Liverpool. Right now, it's not a consideration of the club.
 

Rebelred

Academy Star
#54
I have supported Man Utd from the Big Ron days and I firmly believe we are going in the right direction under Ole even if it doesn't feel like it at the moment with our league position and performances.
My reasons are twofold,
1. He is buying players who want to be Man Utd players. Players who will play with heart and pride, the Man Utd way. Players who wont be distracted by the riches and fame that come with playing for Man Utd.
2. Ole has inherited a squad of players which are a hybrid of 4 other managers. He has had one transfer window, in which the 3 players he bought, have been the 3 best players this season. Dan James, I thought was going to be a squad player this year, IMO he's been there best player we've had so far.
Ole needs to be given a chance to put his stamp on the team, get in the players he wants ( 100% success so far IMO) and get rid of the players he doesn't want (100% success so far IMO). This will take another 2/3 transfer windows, but I think we will see progress. Man Utd have bought some absolute mercenaries over the last number of years and it's great to see Ole eventually righting that wrong.
He is also putting faith in youth, again the Man Utd way.
 

Betty

Assistant Manager
Staff member
#55
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Sam

Manager
Staff member
#56
Time to kick this back up to the top because it's where all the discussion is right now...has your stance on Solskjaer changed? What is it now?

 
#57
My stance hasn't changed. He's a novice manager who seems a bit out of his depth. I'll still back him for as long as he's in charge but the blame for this fiasco lies squarely on the shoulders of the Glazers and their inability to run a football club.
 

THE BASTARD

Reserves Newbie
#59
Its not a comparison in any way shape or form. Complete and utterly different era. Fergie was a resounding success in Scotland. A manager that broke the old firm strangle hold. And not only that but he took Aberdeen into Europe and won the cup winners cup. He had a proven track record of managing at a very high level.

Ole had no such experience apart from taking 19 games to get Cardiff relegated. Molde in Norway is a given for any manager. They win it practically every season. Theyre streaking away with it again.
This whole problem is not purely down to Ole, absolutely not. The guy who keeps dishing out the job is equally culpable.

But chief exec's dont sack themselves. So essentially its the manager who takes the hit.
The facts are this. We arent scoring anywhere near enough. Defensively we are fragile. We've had the worst start to a season in 30 years. We still dont have a pattern of play. We dont know what our best team is. We cant attract quality players. The board have made it clear they will not be backing Ole. So its not a case of if for Ole but when.

The club has an astronomical task on its hands. Its in huge trouble. The money has dried up. No big name manager is going to come to the club without the guarantee of huge investment. If there was vast sums available Ole would have already been sacked. He's still in the job because the board know we are not going to attract anybody else of note.

There's far too much work needs doing for an inexperienced manager to see it through. There's still 5 or 6 players in that squad that should have been off loaded years ago. Mourinho tried but Woodward blocked it because he didnt want to spend to replace them. So today its Ole's problem.

Ole already knows that if he wants to buy in the summer then Pogba's sale will be funding it. But a club letting its best players go like Lukaku, Herrera, Pogba, is hardly putting itself in the shop window for attracting better players. With no champions league again nobody will touch us.
Ole's not made himself too many friends in the dressing room either. He promised giving youth players every chance.
Yet he's frozen out Chong after literally minutes. Greenwood is getting the last 5 minutes in desperation. Gomez doesnt even make the bench yet Mata and Lingard get the nod regularly. Garner just makes the half time brews. Axel constantly gets overlooked?

Young is suspended for the Brighton game. But you can bet your arse he'd be first on the team sheet if he was available.
And that is part of the huge problem. In a nut shell, Ole hasnt got a clue what he's doing and its getting painful.
The players dont know from one game to the next who is going to play or how we are going to play it.

We are a shambles, and complete and utter cluster fuck.
 

Sam

Manager
Staff member
#60
Its not a comparison in any way shape or form. Complete and utterly different era. Fergie was a resounding success in Scotland. A manager that broke the old firm strangle hold. And not only that but he took Aberdeen into Europe and won the cup winners cup. He had a proven track record of managing at a very high level.

Ole had no such experience apart from taking 19 games to get Cardiff relegated. Molde in Norway is a given for any manager. They win it practically every season. Theyre streaking away with it again.
This whole problem is not purely down to Ole, absolutely not. The guy who keeps dishing out the job is equally culpable.

But chief exec's dont sack themselves. So essentially its the manager who takes the hit.
The facts are this. We arent scoring anywhere near enough. Defensively we are fragile. We've had the worst start to a season in 30 years. We still dont have a pattern of play. We dont know what our best team is. We cant attract quality players. The board have made it clear they will not be backing Ole. So its not a case of if for Ole but when.

The club has an astronomical task on its hands. Its in huge trouble. The money has dried up. No big name manager is going to come to the club without the guarantee of huge investment. If there was vast sums available Ole would have already been sacked. He's still in the job because the board know we are not going to attract anybody else of note.

There's far too much work needs doing for an inexperienced manager to see it through. There's still 5 or 6 players in that squad that should have been off loaded years ago. Mourinho tried but Woodward blocked it because he didnt want to spend to replace them. So today its Ole's problem.

Ole already knows that if he wants to buy in the summer then Pogba's sale will be funding it. But a club letting its best players go like Lukaku, Herrera, Pogba, is hardly putting itself in the shop window for attracting better players. With no champions league again nobody will touch us.
Ole's not made himself too many friends in the dressing room either. He promised giving youth players every chance.
Yet he's frozen out Chong after literally minutes. Greenwood is getting the last 5 minutes in desperation. Gomez doesnt even make the bench yet Mata and Lingard get the nod regularly. Garner just makes the half time brews. Axel constantly gets overlooked?

Young is suspended for the Brighton game. But you can bet your arse he'd be first on the team sheet if he was available.
And that is part of the huge problem. In a nut shell, Ole hasnt got a clue what he's doing and its getting painful.
The players dont know from one game to the next who is going to play or how we are going to play it.

We are a shambles, and complete and utter cluster fuck.
Interesting idea about the fact Ole would have been sacked if the money was there...but your last sentence says it all.

I'm still pretty sure a lot of people don't realise JUST how much we are a cluster fuck.

My stance hasn't changed. He's a novice manager who seems a bit out of his depth. I'll still back him for as long as he's in charge but the blame for this fiasco lies squarely on the shoulders of the Glazers and their inability to run a football club.
And we all know the Glazers aren't going anywhere any time soon.
 
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